Eugene DanielsRubio vs. Paul on surveillance.
"Marco gets it completely wrong. We are not any safer through the bulk collection of all American's records," Sen. Rand Paul said during the final GOP presidential debate of 2015.
"This meta-data program is actually more strict than what a regular law enforcement agency has now," Sen. Marco Rubio responded, defending the NSA's bulk collection.
They're talking about the NSA's bulk phone snooping program.
It was shut down by the USA Freedom Act.
Which a majority of Americans probably liked.
According to Pew, 54 percent of Americans disapprove of mass phone / Internet data collection.
So who won: Rubio or Paul?
Don't ask Ben Carson.
"You have to ask them about that. I don't want to get in between them. Let them fight," Dr. Carson said when asked who won the back and forth.
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