Language of the Healthcare Debate

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August 21, 2009
6:51
From astroturfing to seminar callers to Obama-porn, the language of the health care debate is ever-changing. Here's a primer.
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No Photoagent of change
August 29, 2009
10:11 AM
So Marsha, you want the insurance companies calling the shots. They are your real death panels. What do you think happens when they decline people with preexisting conditions? That is a death sentence to a person that has cancer. That is rationing in every sense of the word.
No PhotoPetter
August 27, 2009
06:00 PM
Marsha, You understand that more people die of those deceases that's important to detect and treat early in US then in western countries with universal health care? That you already pay as much through taxes as Sweden does for it's universal care? You have a vastly inefficient system that costs much more then in any high tax country, where much much much more money goes to administrative tasks then in states where the state is strong and large and that you have less doctors and nurses then Sweden who uses under 9% of GDP, when you use over 16.6% of GDP for health care projected to get 17.6% this year. Your system has vastly high runaway costs and will broke down without reform, it's vastly more bureaucratic then those you mentioned or actually any countries health care in terms of money wasted, you shouldn't need to increase cost to cover everyone you should be able to do it with roughly 60% of current spending i.e pretty much without any of your current private/corporate health insurance at all. Canadas health care preforms much better then yours that so badly run and wastes most of it's money, as a result less people actually die (in Canada).

What you don't need is your current health care. I don't think your getting it that you pay more money for all this waste and bureaucracy then any other country or that your lack of governance is bleeding you dry. You don't have affordable health care you have the most expensive, bloated and bureaucratic health care that have ever existed it's not the best in the world and it even makes your country less competitive. Frankly it scares me when you don't seem to have any understanding or concept of how much your system costs or how it compare internationally or that proper regulations are a good thing regardless if it's paid by tax money or not or even that you don't understand that you already pay more tax money for it then many countries with universal care. I think most people underestimate the role of the state and strong institutions. But the americans views seems to be formed on unfunded propaganda and misconceptions and it's really hurting their own people.
No PhotoMarsha Redd
August 25, 2009
09:28 AM
Let's get one thing straight; those of us who are opposed to the current health care reform initiative are NOT opposed to health care. We want everyone to have affordable health care. What we don't want is to have the government run health care and make all of our health care decisions. What we don't want is a bloated, bureaucratic, expensive, socialistic health care system. What we don't want is long waits for services like they have in Canada and the UK. We have a great health care system already. Let's find ways to make it more affordable rather than mess up what is already working for over 80 percent of us.
No Photobill
August 23, 2009
02:11 PM
why does any one use fox news for any thing. unless you start thire part off with: "and now for the crazy view, we go to fox news" they are the worst news station i have ever seen.
IrishAngleIrishAngle
August 22, 2009
08:44 PM
Barney Frank is an oratorical Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali - Barney is equally quick-minded and fast on his feet. Most of the voices in the piece are in the entertainment business and their income is driven by their performances. That's a far cry from the serious work of leading, governing and improving our great country. And we the people know the difference.
Gregg JohnsonGregg Johnson
August 22, 2009
09:13 AM
Im glad that people who oppose health care are being exposed for the frauds they are.
madmaxmadmax
August 21, 2009
08:11 PM
The Beck vid is HILARIOUS!!! I don't mind high level organizations "organizing" protests - all sides do it. What I do mind is people coming to meetings and spewing nonsense and not pushing the conversation forward by REALLY debating the merits of their OWN ideas...
No Photog8r
August 21, 2009
06:08 PM
When is America going to wake up and smell the methane gas? Seriously? People like Beck are actually considered journalists? Rush is still relevant? The republicans can't stand the spotlight cast upon the White House and the faith and hope so many people have in our President. Get over it and pull yourselves together. On second thought...keep up your ridiculousness and continue the implosion.
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