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Lauren BLauren B
March 9, 2010
03:45 PM
I agree with you for the most part, but I also think Israel and Palestine kind of need to "grow up" and start handling things without outside involvement. This conflict has gone on for so long, I wonder if some people are just tired of it. There are so many issues that President Obama isn't going to be able to fix, no matter how involved he might get. It seems like the only thing holding real success is the question of who will possess Jerusalem, and unless Obama can come up with a solution regarding that, we might end up back at square one. But I do think he needs to get involved, because he is the President and we are Israel's ally. It indirectly affects us, too, and Obama needs to show how important it is to him and his administration.  View
Lauren BLauren B
February 23, 2010
06:42 PM
I don't understand why everyone is still friends with Israel. If you look at the history of conflict of the region, Israel is almost as bad as Palestine regarding terrorism. Then again, it's not terrorism if you're the one doing it, right?  View
econcurious88econcurious88
November 3, 2009
01:27 PM
I actually somewhat agree with John Hannity in that last clip. We should TRY to be as objective as we can as a nation--showing preference to one side is only going to hurt us at this point. Now, obviously under the Bush admin, there was a huge preference given towards Israel over Palestine. So, I do think the U.S. needs to show sensitivity in its dealings and perhaps try to repair any damages caused by the Palestine exclusions. Still, ideally, this country does not want to alienate either one but rather work with both of them. Sadly, that is the most difficult step.  View
No Photo
December 7, 2009
12:24 PM
Our country is a veritable Pandora's Box. It's hard to have a decent discussion when misinformation is carted around with no consequences in our media and schools. Does Obama deserve the peace prize? For such a brilliant and gifted orator, high expectations are in order. For myself, a huge part of peace has everything to do with real understanding and real understanding can only come with the truth and truth can only come when there are consequences to knowingly lying and misleading the public. That is the core of it all. We cannot have a decent discussion without the real history and real facts of everyone concerned....and that just doesn't jive with our national rhetoric. Politicians get away with lying and it's just par for the course. There are no consequences. The Constitution is clear about enemies foreign and domestic and the concept of high treason. But Alice fell through the looking glass long ago. Facing the hard truth about how our banks and military and government and media actually run would stagger anyone. Do you want a job? A really good job? Then join the Navy. Join the military. Of course, you've got to blow some people up or get yourself blown up...but maybe you'll muck it through and get processed by the VA without blowing your brains out like our veterans are doing right now....the worst rates ever in our history. It's a set up. The time for transition is now- not for war but for understanding, not for tired old school methods but for major inventions, not for pollution but for the evolution of ideas, a veritable renaissance could have been in the making for energy and the environment and communication. So what happened to yes we can? What happened to yes we can, among other things, is that we have a congress and senate of no, we won%u2019t and a populace dumber than rocks educated by teachers triggered by the parameters of squares never looking to the stars. Poor Einstein. He and Obama have a lot in common. There%u2019s the right thing and then there is the world and that is where you get %u2026.lost. Everyone yelling and flailing their arms at you. So, countrymen, how are you doing on your own peace prize. How many of you voted for Bush? For two terms? If anyone needs to pay it forward, it%u2019s the whole lot of us crazy human beings on this planet too screwed up by the myopic views and fears of culture and religion to ever be open to even discussing anything civilly. We need to grow up. Does Obama deserve the peace prize? That%u2019s not the real question. The real question is do we even know what true peace is? Once we know that, then maybe we can start discussing things with a foundation%u2026..one step at a time. With a stroke of his pen he could close Gitmo. If he cared, he could have fireside chats on the radio with us and begin to educate us on the problems we have inherited from 1947 with Israel and Palestine.  View
No Photogooch
October 1, 2009
10:29 AM
First of all, I hope your site succeeds - I think it has the potential to be an amazing tool for teachers who work with media and current issues in the classroom. Second - Overall, this is a great overview of how the different media sources are portraying the story. As someone who is Zionist and fairly left wing by Israeli standards, I felt that the clips you chose cover every valid angle that can be taken about the story. Third - A couple of comments about the anchor's script. the anchor says the following: "The two states" (in reference to the Israelis and Palestinians) - right now, there is only one state, and the territories that are in dispute. The stated outcome of the process is to end up with two sovereign states. Both sides would disagree with the assumption that there are already two states. "Palestine and Israeli Conflict" - this is a strange turn of phrase in all sorts of ways. As per the note above, there is currently no state called "Palestine," although I hope there will be one soon. A better phrase is the common "Israeli-Palestinian conflict," or "Conflict between Israel and the Palestinians." I myself am comfortable with the term "occupation" to refer to what is going on in the West Bank, but the word itself is pretty loaded. Thank you for providing such a useful service.  View
robotsoulrobotsoul
August 3, 2009
10:52 AM
We have given Israel a blank check for too long which has been detrimental to our broader foreign policy aims. I agree that Israel should freeze settlements, and I think the president made the right move by stating that publicly. I don't think this will hurt the peace talks, Israel needs the U.S. more than their rhetoric betrays. Also, this goes a long way to gain Muslim support. Most importantly--freezing settlements is a legitimate, necessary, and viable concession that could help usher in less hostile relations between Palestine and Israel. It's good policy.  View
No Photo
July 30, 2009
09:10 PM
Many believe Britain began the State of Israel with their Belfour Declaration, instead it called for a home (Homeland) only. This Zionist group had from the beginning wanted a secular/political State (Zionist 1919 map provided Paris Peace Commission proves this fact), which claimed all of Palestine and parts of Arab States also). Britain to address this error formed the Woodhead Commission in 1938, and in 1939 came out with a severely restricted State of Israel (coastal plain), as a result three large Zionist paramilitary terrorist groups began attacking British also. Do not confuse this secular Zionist-Gov with true devout Jewish, that from 70AD until 1900's had Jewish returing to Palestine (establishing a Homeland 2000-years before Zionism) and living in peace all this time with their Palestine neighbors. Check into (jewsagainstzionism.com), they rejected Zionism going back to 1897. Today besides Israeli soldiers refusing any more atrociries against Palestinians, these true Jewish are stoned and beatened when meeting in Israel to protest the Zionist-Gov atrocities.  View
robotsoulrobotsoul
May 18, 2009
01:20 PM
I am with the economist on this one. We need to give the Israelis an incentive to support a Palestinian state. An over-emphasis on Iran is a mistake, and reflects backwards thinking. The Israeli/Palestine issue is very much at the core of other Middle East tensions.  View
No Photo
June 2, 2009
10:11 PM
There actually is no Israeli and Palestine issue that needs be focused upon or resolved, instead as Obama is well aware, it is the 1919-Map that the Zionist's presented before the Paris Peace Commission showing these (secular) Zionists wanted all of Palestine including portions of surrounding Arab States. Obama may well save many Jewish much suffering and disaster in the future, despite US-Media censorship in this situation the present Zionist Apartheid in Palestine and other Arab nations cannot continue much longer without serious consequence. Also we need sever the control now found over the US-Gov and Media regarding this situation.  View
No Photo
June 2, 2009
10:34 PM
Many concerning the issue concerning State of Israel and Palsetinian keep bringing up Iran, as though Iran were responcible for conditions in Palestine. The fact's are that the oldest Jewish settlement (about 3000-years old) is still found living (in peace) in Iran, and refuse the Zionist-Gov bribery to leave. It is also well worth mentioning, every 'fearmongering' lie the Cheney/Bush-Admin charged against Iran has (now) been effectively repudiated with facts. The Int'l Atomic Energy Agency Chief effectively saying the Bush-Admin lied, others informed saying that the US-Gov bullied the (10 common member) Security Council into passing bogus resolutions similar to as done in Iraq to claim "non-compliance' before Cheney's "Constublary" world domination plan. The CIA also advised Iran gave up Nuclear Weapons in 2003, the Pentagon in 2008 dropping their (bogus) charges they had evidence of Iran weapons supplied Iraq terrorist, etc, etc, etc. The only non-member of IAEA 'Non Proliferation Treaty' nations with dangerous Atomic-Bomb stockpiles within that area of the world are India, Pakistan, and State of Israel.  View

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